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 Post subject: Alluminum wheels
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:32 am 
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Does anyone have any opinion on aluminum wheels?

Mine are rusty, and I've derusted the insides complete (by soaking them in Evaporust), painted them with rust converting primer, and then paint, and restored them... but I can see someday I probably should replace them.... as so much rust happened inside the rear wheel that the spokes were welded in place by the rusting action.

Aluminum wheels would be impervious to rust, possibly lighter, and easier to clean I think. I love the look of spokes and don't have the money for such expensive wheels, but I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with them... are they as strong or stronger than the spoked wheels, and are they lighter or the same weight or heavier?

Front:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3984Q2em1423Q2el2649QQitemZ280652654440QQsspagenameZSTRKQ3aMEWAXQ3aIT#ht_3716wt_799

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Rebel-CA-250-CMX-250C-Aluminum-REAR-Wheel-Sub-Assy-New-/280655022309?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item415857c8e5#ht_4277wt_802


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 Post subject: Re: Alluminum wheels
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:25 pm 
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I have no experience but the disclaimer makes it sound like it may or may not work.

1) This is Aftermarket Item (Non-OEM Product)
2) Install instruction are not include
3) Please purchase OEM Product if you need Perfect Quality Item.
4) Please ensure item can Use on your bike model.


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 Post subject: Re: Alluminum wheels
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:56 pm 
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Color me cynical, also. Maintain the bike as best you can and save your money (I like rat bikes myself).

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 Post subject: Re: Alluminum wheels
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:27 pm 
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choppergirl wrote:
Aluminum wheels would be impervious to rust



That's actually not true. It's simply that most people don't recognize "aluminum rust" when they see it. ;)

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possibly lighter,


Definitely true for mag-to-mag comparisons, but nothing so far has ever been lighter than spokes.

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and easier to clean I think.


_everything_ is easier to clean than spokes. Outside of spokes, well-- it's mags to mags: steel mags clean the same as aluminum mags. ;)

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are they as strong or stronger than the spoked wheels, and are they lighter or the same weight or heavier?


This might surprise you (it surprises most folks), but the reason the dirt bikes tend to run spokes is because-- well, just light the weight thing, nothing has ever come along that's stronger than spokes, either. Spokes even have the advantage of being more repairable than mags: some minor damage-- something that might make you toss a mag wheel-- can be removed through skillful adjustment of the spokes.

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 Post subject: Re: Alluminum wheels
PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:18 pm 
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This would be a great deal IF they fit, and IF you could use tubeless tires on them. They look great as well, but to me the tubeless tire thing would be by far the biggest benefit.

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 Post subject: Re: Alluminum wheels
PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 6:15 am 
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They _will_ fit. The front one has to be mounted backwards.

Does no one else recognize them?

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 Post subject: Re: Alluminum wheels
PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:11 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Alluminum wheels
PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:06 am 
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I was sure they came off a Chinese Rebel clone, just like the gas tanks. But I had no idea which one, as there are now so many. I heard Tank went belly up, the latest thing around here seems to be Hensim, or something like that. They show up on Craigslist quite often. I'm assuming they are not cosmetically perfect, from the description, but again, nothing from China is. To me it's more a matter of, are they safe? A Rebel with tubeless tires would be great.

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 Post subject: Re: Alluminum wheels
PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:21 am 
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They're perfectly fine. There are a number of folks here, and on other boards, who have swapped to the Tank rims before. However, they are _not_ lighter than spokes, and aluminum is no more impervious to corrosion than is anything else. They are, however, much easier to clean than are spokes, if you're into that whole "cleaning" thing....

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 Post subject: Re: Alluminum wheels
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:43 pm 
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It says 1996+up, whats the difference between them and the 85-95 Rebels?


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 Post subject: Re: Alluminum wheels
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:57 pm 
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And does anyone have info on that Bike in Dan's post? The handle bars, seat, radiator/oil cooler?, nicest Rebel I've ever seen!


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 Post subject: Re: Alluminum wheels
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:26 am 
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It's not a Rebel. It's a Tank. To the best anyone knows, they've gone belly-up.

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 Post subject: Re: Alluminum wheels
PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:16 pm 
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Gas_sippus_minimus wrote:
It says 1996+up, whats the difference between them and the 85-95 Rebels?

85-95 the front break is on the right side
96+ the front break is on the left side

Now look at the wheels. They are directional. The break will be on the right side if you mount they correctly. Which means they fit 85-95. 96+ you will have to change front forks or run the front wheel backwards in relation to the rear.

It takes custom spacers and a Honda shadow rear break plate.

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 Post subject: Re: Alluminum wheels
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:33 am 
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Duke wrote:
choppergirl wrote:
Aluminum wheels would be impervious to rust



That's actually not true. It's simply that most people don't recognize "aluminum rust" when they see it. ;)
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Ah yes. Inner granular corrosion. Makes aircraft repairs mighty expensive. Ask me how I know this..... ~sigh~


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 Post subject: Re: Alluminum wheels
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:36 am 
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DeeG1 wrote:
Duke wrote:
choppergirl wrote:
Aluminum wheels would be impervious to rust



That's actually not true. It's simply that most people don't recognize "aluminum rust" when they see it. ;)
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Ah yes. Inner granular corrosion. Makes aircraft repairs mighty expensive. Ask me how I know this..... ~sigh~


On my aircraft carrier the flight crews were always watching for it as part of their inspections.

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 Post subject: Re: Alluminum wheels
PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 4:19 pm 
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I live in AZ. No moisture here. I can deal with any minor corrosion that might happen. It would not bother me to mount the front one backwards. I just want a bike that you can tour on, which to me means tubeless tires. Too bad about the custom spacers, and I don't see how the much larger rear brake panel from a Shadow would fit those little wheels. IF someone sold a complete kit to install those wheels on a Rebel, I would have another Rebel in a hurry. My main issue with the Rebel, other than it being too small for me, which I dealt with to a point, was the constant fear of flat tires, with no real way to fix them (no centerstand) I've always loved the idea of touring on a really small bike, but you would have to be able to fix flat tires on it. I even considered a SYM Wolf 150, which has a centerstand, but is too small for the freeway. The Rebel, V-Star 250, TU250, and the Suzuki S40 all have tube type tires and no centerstand. Magazine editors don't care, they just call a tow truck when they have a flat tire, but in the real world it doesn't work that way.


While Tank has gone belly up (for good reason) there is still the exact same Rebel clone made (or sold by) Hensim.

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 Post subject: Re: Alluminum wheels
PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 4:46 pm 
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It's all in the Hub or break area is the difference.
7 in across on the aluminum wheels.


5 in across on the factory wheels.

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 Post subject: Re: Alluminum wheels
PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 7:11 pm 
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JerryH wrote:
I don't see how the much larger rear brake panel from a Shadow would fit those little wheels.


Seriously?

The brake panel has nothing to do with tire size or even rim size. The brake panel has to fit the hole in the rim that accommodates the brakes.

According to everyone that has ever done this rim swap, the hole in the Tank rims is the same size as brake panel from a Shadow.

As for custom spacers: that's a non-issue. I don't think anyone has ever had to cut a ride short because their spacer went flat. It's a non-wear item. Once you've got it installed, you never really think about it again.

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