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 Post subject: Re: Gears on a 250
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:40 pm 
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Well the tips worked out and I was able to tack on another 24 miles of drive time around town, most of which was on some local highways. The only thing that kept me from going farther was the 40 degree temps. This Saturday its supposed to be in the 70's so I will attempt a 50 mile round trip journey.

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 Post subject: Re: Gears on a 250
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:44 pm 
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Motorcycle: 1985 Rebel
Rebel: 250
Country: USA
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City: Portland
DixieBull wrote:
jsonder wrote:
Those are maximum economy shift points; use on flat with a tail wind or going down hill.

Most riders rev it to ~75% of the red line speed (red ticks on speedometer; the ticks are for the first four gears and their maximum speeds) in each gear before shifting to a higher gear.


I tried to shift the bike according to the red line ticks and where it says 1, 2, 3, and 4 on the speedometer and can't seem to get it down. The bike rides very rough and for whatever reason the shifting points are off.

On my Rebel I shift into 2nd at 5mph because the engine sounds like its gonna blow... then I shift into 2nd at 15 or so, then 3rd at 20, then 4th at 25-30mph... and then I can't find the 5th gear. Since I can't find the 5th gear I have not been able to take my Rebel out on a main road because I would get run down.

I'm going by how the engine sounds now because the ticks on the speedometer are waaaaay off and are unrealistic.

It frustrating :gaah:

Any advice...


I believe you are counting 2nd gear twice.


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 Post subject: Re: Gears on a 250
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:02 pm 
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Motorcycle: 2002 Honda Rebel
Rebel: 250
Country: USA
State/Province: NJ
City: Hoboken
I can't find Gear 5 either.
I've had the bike for about a month now....it rains too much to ride but when I do I can't find a 5th gear. I've VERY new to riding and am learning a lot just reading some forums...like the 'red line' that tells you when to shift, I'll have to look for that myself. I've been shifting sooner then I feel I should. I've risen up to 60mph for no longer then 4-8minutes (due to traffic only).....can I do that in 4th gear? Am I in 5th and not know it? If I'm in 5th then what gear and I skipping?

Looking forward to any advice and learning more from you guys.
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 Post subject: Re: Gears on a 250
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:15 pm 
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You cannot skip any gears. You push the shifter DOWN into first from neutral. You can then make 4 upshifts all the way up to 5th gear. I think you are just miscounting. Also, there is no reason to ever go near the shift points on the speedo. Those are absolute LIMTS, not recommended shift points. You will normally be shifting much sooner than that.

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 Post subject: Re: Gears on a 250
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:07 pm 
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City: Summerfield
Greetings dawnhowes11,

Welcome to the Forum.

A tip on your shifting. When you shift from Neutral to 1st Gear. As you shift to 1st gear, you will feel a resistance in the Shift Lever. If you depress the Shift Lever again, you won't Feel any Resistance. That is shift #1. As you shift up to the other gears. Each time you shift to a higher gear, the shift count is increased by 1. Once you are in 5th Gear. If you try to shift to another Gear. Their is no resistance felt in the Shift Lever.

Speedometer Red Tick Mark for a Rebel 250, with the Stock 14/33t Sprocket Set.

Speedometer Red Tick Mark
1st__.20 mph____6,880 rpms
2nd__40 mph____8,480 rpms
3rd__55 mph____8,745 rpms
4th__70 mph____9,030 rpms
5th__82 mph____8,938 rpms

Some Rebel Riders have Posted Speeds above 90 mph, with stock gearing.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4452&hilit=radar
viewtopic.php?t=4346
5th Gear @ 93 mph = 10,137 rpms

From the Chart, the Rebel's Engine Redline is in excess of 9,000 rpms.

Now, with the error in the Rebel's Speedometer, the rpms will be less that what is displayed in the Chart.

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 Post subject: Re: Gears on a 250
PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:57 am 
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Rebel: 250
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What I have found to be the most common cause of mis-counting is not counting first. At all.

That is, counting the "upshifts" instead of the gears themselves.

In exemplum:

pull away in first gear. Reach a speed sufficient to upshift into second. Making the upshift, and mentally counting "one..."

All the way up. From second to third becomes "two...."

Third to fourth becomes "three...."

Fourth to fifth becomes "four...."

And then there's nowhere to go.

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