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 Post subject: Miscusi's Pictorial: Seat Comfort Mod
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:57 am 
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I think this mod has been around ever since seats were made of foam.

In my opnion, if the seat feels great to you, dont bother with this mod. The reason I had done this, is because I feel that the seat is "pushing" me forward, making me sit too far forward. I am a person who probably is the biggest you can be on a rebel and generally feel comfortable.

With this mod, one can sit about a half inch to an inch further back, and with the removal of the metal plate, going over a bump feels better.

Also included in this mod, is cutting off some foam at the rear, I think this is optional, but it lessens the "pushing my butt forward" feeling.

There are plenty you can do with a rebel seat, including adding gel pads or changing the foam all together.

After I had done this, although the bike felt bigger, it still wasnt big enough, which prompted me to go for a bigger bike. So before you hack up your stock seat, you might want to ask, Is a bigger bike the better choice ?

HERE it is. the Mod.


Here we have a 2002 Seat. It is in perfect condtion. The foam is real good.

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So we start with removing the staples that secure the cover to the seat pan/plate.

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I used a pair of needle nose pliars, and a pocket knife to pry up the stubborn ones..

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Opps ! I guess taking this off will allow access to the rear staples



OK, staples are off, pan is off, look here, in the rear is a metal plate, stuck in the foam. you can see the metal in one of the holes..

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Using a sharp pocket knife, I make an incision and carefully pull out the plate, note the plate is glued in there, so be careful with the foam as not to tear too much off.

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GOT IT, and this is the other side of the metal plate.

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So I feel that the back of the seat is too high, Here I cut some foam off, be careful of the cover and buttons...


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So then I smooth the edges of the foam a bit, and filp the cover back over, be sure the plastic wrap is in place.

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Notice the wrinkles, you have to pull the cover a little tighter to take up the slack..

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Using a heavy duty stapler, you staple around the thing.

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Some staples look loose, but I had later hammered the loose ones in.

Here we have, stapled seat,

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And here we have the finish project, I chose not to spend too much time smoothing the foam, but it does look good.

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Here is the side view, notice the back isnt as tall anymore.. A better job of cutting the foam would yield a smoother surface.

Overall, I think the time spent doing this was well worth it.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:07 pm 
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Miscusi, thank you for taking the time to update the photo links.

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Just did this seat mod (Thanks Miscusi!!!) and then added about an inch of military sleeping pad foam to the bottom before i stapled everything back on. My butt is now singing praises to the Almighty. Just doing this added a few inches of spread-out room to my ride. All i gotta do is gas up for a weekend ride. upper 80's out here in west texas, i'm on the road. Thanks again for the post Miscusi

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I'm having a hard time getting the nuts loose on the bracket that has the strap for the passenger seat. They just keep spinning. Has anyone else had this problem? How do I fix it?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:41 pm 
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and i cant get the bolts that hold the rear of the rear seat loose!!

tried closed end and open end wrenches... as well as ratchet- they just wont budge. and the wrenches look like they are about to break-
what is the secret here??

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:11 am 
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Penetrating oil?
Applied from underneath, perhaps? Directly to the threads?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:56 am 
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nah, that was the first thing I tried. It's not really stuck, it just keeps spinning...but the washer spins with it (I'm not sure if it's supposed to)...I tried holding the washer with pliers and trying to get it that way but that didn't work either.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:21 am 
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Yep, had the same problem. I worked around it, I was able to pull the cover and reassemble without removing the bracket.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:55 am 
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I used a pry bar between the seat and bracket. Gently applied pressure, just enough to seat the bolt allowed me to back off the nuts. Same scenario only in reverse to get them back on.

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my problem isnt spinning... heck the thing wont move and its a new bike!
which made me think that maybe they used a washer lock type glue on it.

but i dont see any locktite stuff... hmmm

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:09 pm 
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I think we're talking about two different bolts here.
1.) The mounting bolts for the pillion, and
2.) The nuts on the bracket under the front seat.

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i am talking about the bolts at the back of the rear seat... small metric heads, near the back of the back seat- on the rear fender.
not sure what a pillion is, but i know i was not dealing with the front seat...

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I think we're talking about two different bolts here.
1.) The mounting bolts for the pillion, and
2.) The nuts on the bracket under the front seat.

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Thanks so much for turning me onto this easy and cheap mod. I took it one step further tho. I added 3 layers of the thin foam you find inside the square blue boat cushion/life preserver things. When you open them up there is like 8-10 layers inside just one. Traced out the shape cut them all the same then punched holes for the buttons. Had to extend the string tho. I used 4 small zip ties closed only 3 notches from the end. Then stuck needle noses thru the hole to grap the ziptie and pulled them thru and used the anchors for each. Then pulled the cover back into place and restapled. Looks flatter now and slightly taller. Spreads the load over a larger area and you can move more than an inch farther back. Thanks again for the idea and motivation. Best of all I didn't have to use her original seat. My dad gave me his 06' seat to experiment on.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:47 am 
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Thanks miscusi!

I love this modification and am totally going to do it once I have all the equipment (ie staple gun.)

Took my first hour+ ride yesterday and my tail bone was totally killing me where the hard brace is located. I've been wondering if I couldn't just scoot the seat back a few inches (only 5'6" but have long legs) and this modification will do the trick.

Thanks again!

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Now I gotta do it again. My did likes his old seat now so I'm giving it back and I gotta do Joans seat now.

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hey, you doin more seats than a plastic surgeon ! :lol:


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I've had to do 3 of them. One for each Rebel. :P

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:30 pm 
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I've recently been working on reupholstering a reb seat. I got an old one from Ebay. I removed the torture plate, added a layer of 2 inch high density foam, and I'm trying to get a sewing machine to make a new cover from boat seat vinyl. I had to drill the old bolts out because they were completely rusted. I posted pix of the process thus far in *another forum*. I'll link the pix of the rusty bolts replacement after dinner.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:26 pm 
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original, rusty stuff


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A bit of drilling



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Trimmed of some plastic

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Replaced original hardware with stuff from Home Depot

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This is what's left of the nuts and bolts after drilling.

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The nut things are molded into the plastic, and as you can see, they are mostly round with a couple flats to keep them from spinning. No doubt enough resistance for assembly, but once they spin in the plastic, there isn't much keeping them in place.

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