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 Post subject: Fuel Filter FAQ & Discussion
PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:09 pm 
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FUEL FILTER

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel Filter FAQ & Discussion
PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 6:09 pm 
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 Post subject: In-line fuel filter pics
PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:57 pm 
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I took the advice of many on this forum, and the advice of my local Honda dealership's service manager, and installed an in-line fuel filter on my 1986 Honda Rebel 250.

I'm a total newbie when it comes to motorcycle maintenance, and find it really helpful when those giving advice and direction also post pics of the parts and processes. Here are the pics of my installation of an in-line fuel filter on my 1986 Rebel 250. The whole process took me about a half hour and the bike started right up and idled fine in the driveway after I was done. I've not yet taken it for a ride, however, since the installation. I'll post an update if I have any problems, otherwise assume everything worked okay. ;-)

The first pic is the whole assembly. Since the fuel line I used is fairly thick, I chose to use an extra length of it (a foot) and wrap it around the drain hose, rather than go the short and direct route.
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A close-up of the fuel line coming out of the petcock, also showing the hose clamps I used (more secure than the clip-on type that came with the bike when I bought it):
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A close-up of the fuel filter itself, purchased from my Honda dealer for $2.50:
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:25 pm 
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interesting...more of a noobie here: whats the rational behind the filter?


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same as a coffee filter, you dont want particles in your cup of coffee.

Oh and one thing I dont think is great about this is that the heavier grit will settle in the bottom curve of the fuel line, and if over time, it'll just fill up and give you out of gas symptoms, but thats kinda extreme.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:19 pm 
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The sediment should be mostly cleared by gravity each time the filter is changed.

Removing it at the petcock too, would let you run a brush through it...

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:48 pm 
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The fuel line I bought is probably twice as thick as the fuel line that came on the bike when I bought it. I had every intention of going more or less straight from the petcock to the filter to the carb, but as I was working with the line it just seemed to take a lot of effort to get it to bend that way. Believe it or not, the "long way around" that you see in my original pics has less stress on the fuel line than the more direct route. Maybe that's because the fuel filter I bought is somewhat long and the piece of fuel line I put between it and the carb was perhaps a tad longer than necessary.

When I replace the fuel filter, I intend to replace the fuel line with it. Maybe the next time it won't be so convoluted. ;-)

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what size is the fuel line?


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The fuel line on my 1986 Rebel 250 is 1/4" (inside diameter). I don't think it's under pressure, like a radiator hose, so it probably doesn't need to be quite so thick as you see in my original photos. Because the line is so thick, it makes it a tad more difficult to bend at tight angles than the thinner line that originally came with the bike when I bought it (used).

I'm not sure if the thicker line is a good thing, a bad thing, or just a "thing". :-) Anyway, I took my fuel filter into the auto parts store with me to make sure the inside diameter matched (which is what's important).

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I did mine just like MRs. It is a visu-filter, I think. I ordered three of them online. I didn't get any new fuel line. I just cut about an inch out of the existing line and spliced in the filter. Simple.


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arcdude wrote:
I did mine just like MRs. It is a visu-filter, I think. I ordered three of them online. I didn't get any new fuel line. I just cut about an inch out of the existing line and spliced in the filter. Simple.



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tracked down EXACTLY what I have ...

visu-filter slim line 701c

http://www.visufilter.com/

http://www.visufilter.com/slim_line_fuel_filters.htm

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 Post subject: screen instead of a fuel filter
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The dealership said my cmx 250 Rebel had a screen instead of a fuel filter. What is the difference?
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All bikes have that screen:

it's around the draw tube inside the tank. It is not, however, granular enough to remove what a filter will.

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I want to thank you all for chiming in on possible solutions. I think I have this problem sorted out now. Pulled the carbs last sunday and checked things out. Pulled float bowls, just enough crud in the left bowl to notice, right bowl was clean. pulled all jets one at a time. found crud in low speed jet of left carb. It cleaned out with very little effort spraying carb cleaner through it. With floats and needle valves removed, I hooked up my tuneup tank to the fuel inlet. With the carbs over a large cake pan I let the petcock wide open. Right carb let fuel run right through, left carb barely dribbled. Closed petcock! Removed tuneup tank and turned carbs bowl side up. Back flushed the fuel inlets. Right side blew a trace of crud out. Left side, blew out about 1/4 teaspoon of black crud from the T pipe!

I suspect this stuff came from the petcock bung. Thinking back on how I restored the tank, I had a rubber stoper in that bung through the whole process including painting. I think the plug kept the cleaning chemicals off the crud at the end of this pipe so it never came clean. Now that the bike has a full tank of Chevron gas with Techron, that probably loosened the crud. Because the bike was started the first time on the kickstand all the crud would flow into the left carb until it filled with fuel.

I only got to ride about 16 miles since I cleaned out the crud but did it ever run sweeeeeeeeet! No stumble, no gas puked on the ground, and no stalling at idle. :wink: I am happy now!

Lesson learned: I dont think I will ever run a bike without a fuel filter again no mater how convinced I am that the tank is clean.

Once again, Thanks for the help and support.

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Just thought I would add mine:

It's a 90 degree one, seems to fit the 450 better since my fuel line goes in between the 2 carbs.

http://rebel250.com/rebelforum/garage.php?mode=view_gallery_item&image_id=1520


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You know, I never put the clamps back on when I installed mine and that was 10,000 miles ago.

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Installed the same filter as MR on my 450 3 years ago when I bought the bike. Removed today and thought I'd offer this photo as a side by side comparison of a brand new filter and one that has been in service for a few years:

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These are the SAME filter. The bend on the used one was not originally there...

Although the plastic "shell" of the filter was discolored, there didn't appear to be any evidence of any small "gritty" pieces in the filter or attached to the gold inner portion of the filter. Is this what one would expect?

I found it interesting that over the 3 years the filter "bent itself." Any thoughts on how this happened? Heat from the engine softening the filter?

Here is a shot of what it looked like when it was installed (note that this photo was taken with the gas tank removed, hence the open end to the fuel line that would normally be attached to the petcock):

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 Post subject: Inline fuel filter BRANDS ?
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I've got a question that doesn't seem to be anywhere on the forum. Does anyone have any thoughts/knowledge about the manufacturers of the clear inline fuel filters and their quality level? I ask because I bought one at O'Reilly's by a company called "Primeline" and it looks like it may be a little more cheaply made than the Visufilter or the ones sold by JC Whitney...(Same cone-shaped sintered bronze though).

It was also about $1.00 less than the JC Whitney filter. It may be fine, but it looks slightly cheaper because it is a little less clear, has a cosmetic defects (like the little white marks you get on your fingernails when you bang them a little) and doesn't have an arrow facing flow direction. It's also made in Taiwan if that may mean what it usually means.

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I'm wondering the same thing - if anyone has any opinions regarding brands on the inline fuel filters. I have a 450 if you also have any comments about which model of said brand fits best.

My hubby bought a small motor Raycor filter hoping to fit it onto his NT650 but the darn thing jsut wont fit. s'too bad since they hang down so you can pull the bowl off and empty any gunk whenever you want to. pulls out water even! We use a large one on our boat!


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be aware that the 250 and 450 use different sized fuel lines ... (1/4" -vs- 5/16th")

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