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 Post subject: ATF chain lube deja vu
PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:10 pm 
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Well, I'm doing the same chain lube (ATF every 150-200 miles applied with a nearly saturated sock top) game with the new bike.

It will take a few years, but, the chain size is the same (520) with a modest engine size increase from 249 cc to 471 cc.

Having a center stand makes lubing with each fill up a lot easier. Hopefully I won't sell this bike after getting 11K miles into the experiment.

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 Post subject: Re: ATF chain lube deja vu
PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:25 am 
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Well, I'm 2K miles into using ATF on the CB500XA. Everything going sweetly so far. It sure is nice to have a center stand again.

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 Post subject: Re: ATF chain lube deja vu
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:23 pm 
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My chain on the CB500X, at 9200 miles, has only been adjusted to fix the alignment shortly after purchase. Frequent ATF lubing of the chain should add to the chain's life expectancy.

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 Post subject: Re: ATF chain lube deja vu
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:00 pm 
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I have to wonder how many riders would ever be as dedicated as you to carry around a sock saturated with ATF to lube the chain at every fillup. (I know I could never do that.) I'm sure the chain would love it, but what about sling-off on the wheel , general messiness etc?

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 Post subject: Re: ATF chain lube deja vu
PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 7:57 am 
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Actually, for touring I also carry a 500 ml Gatorade bottle full of ATF to refill the zip lock bag.

I found on the dual sport that ATF is much better as it doesn't hold dirt like oils do. One of the beemer folks put me on to it, and while it is a problem (messy, too frequently required, etc.), under dry road conditions, I normally want to stop and gas up every couple of hours anyway, and lubing the chain at the same time is no problem. I like to travel on the "upper half" of the fuel tank. :D

Sling off -- yes there is some, especially on the side and center stands.
I have some newspapers (on top of cardboard) on the floor under the chain area of the bike to catch minor drippage.

P.S. This is being sent from a Windows 10 partition on my linux laptop, using the Chrome browser. There may yet be hope for Microsloth.....

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 Post subject: Re: ATF chain lube deja vu
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:29 am 
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$27 with a 20% off coupon.
http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/lifts-stands/motorcycle-swingarm-rear-stand-65620.html

Not practical for the intervals you people are talking of, but for normal maintenance it makes things so much easier.


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 Post subject: Re: ATF chain lube deja vu
PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:58 pm 
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OEM chain still going strong at 13K miles. I love having a center stand!

P.S. There is no hope for Microsoft since their anniverary update; I only use it now to play dvd movies.

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 Post subject: Re: ATF chain lube deja vu
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:52 am 
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John: Do you know if the centerstand on the CB500X will also fit a CB500F of similar vintage? I've been seriously eyeing the F model, but I have a real problem with chain-driven bikes without centerstands. (well, ANY bike without a centerstand, honestly).
And thanks for keeping us up to date on the chain lube experiment.
brent

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 Post subject: Re: ATF chain lube deja vu
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:41 am 
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The F has a shorter suspension up front, so the effort to get the bike up on the center stand is greater. Also, the X has a small tab welded to the muffler to stop the center stand. Picture is from the rear wheel perspective, looking frontwards. The shiny item is the foot of the stand, it swings down to the left. I bought the X instead of the F mainly for the OEM center stand, but also for the slightly larger tank and slightly more spacious ergonomics. The OEM luggage rack is horribly heavy; look into alternatives if you buy the F.

I ordered the OEM center stand, the link is for an after market one, fitted on an F:

http://www.cbr500riders.com/forum/honda-cb500f/57313-cb5oof-center-stand.html

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 Post subject: Re: ATF chain lube deja vu
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:34 am 
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Thanks, John. Good to know there's an aftermarket stand as well. I appreciate the warning about the low front suspension on the F, and related effort to pull it up on the stand. I'm hoping that 8 years practice putting my 625 lb Bandit on the centerstand will help with any additional effort needed. Having watched my little (younger AND littler) brother put his late model Goldwing up on the stand with relative ease, I'm pretty sure that technique is the trick in this case.
brent

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 Post subject: Re: ATF chain lube deja vu
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:43 pm 
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Naw, it is youth, not technique; trust me...........

:D

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 Post subject: Re: ATF chain lube deja vu
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:39 am 
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:lol:

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 Post subject: Re: ATF chain lube deja vu
PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:43 am 
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The OEM chain is now at 17200 miles with little adjusting, using ATF as the only lubricant.

I bunged myself up last June an cut my riding way back until my back recovered from being wrenched and out of alignment.

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