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 Post subject: New Sidwinder400 in 2012
PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:52 pm 
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There may be an Arizona ride up 191 from Clifton to Springerville (or vice versa), with a potenital side trip to Mule Creek, N.M., and/or including a twisty road nearby.

The date is still up in the air as is the duration and routes. This should give you non-low-latitude folk something to do while the snow falls. :lol:

Here is the starting comment from the original sidewinder event, by S.W.:


I've left RW to his own devices for several days. Not a wise thing to do.
The way his mind works - I could easily find myself, on my Rebel, in
Canada, Mexico, or Pennsylvania, etc. Next week!

Walked in on him, sitting at the computer, with that particular gleam in his
eyes again. With the following picture displayed on the computer screen.



He said, "looks like a sidewinder". "And, it's got 400 switchbacks in
123 miles." Thus the name.

(I suffered a bit of panic because I'm a long way from being finished with
what I've been doing. Working on finances. I can't be heading out on a
road trip right now! Then, I made the mistake of leaving him alone again.)

This morning, I caught him looking at maps of the area. Trying to pick out
a loop where we could park the trailer and not repeat a route back.

Guess what, folks - we'll be riding Arizona some time this year. I HAVE
managed to talk him out of doing it right now. I threw "lack of finances"
at him. That didn't work as well as "if we go now, the only part of your
new garage that you'll see this year is the foundation". AHA! I pushed
the right button.

Anyway, asking for input from Arizonians. Or others who may have ridden
this area. Best time of year? Weather? Anything that should be considered?
(I refuse to sleep in a cave or on the ground. The only experience I've
had with snakes was a large black snake and a baby rattlesnake. My
experience was - Run! Run! Run!) Anyone else interested? With us or on
your own?

Here's a link to the area:

http://www.byways.org/explore/byways/2059/stories/52884

/end S.W./

I've done the mule creek road in a miata, and it IS paved, for those of you who care about such things.

The idea is to have a few days of neat riding on a stretch that is not that overcrowded by bikes and sport cars. Meeting close to the ride area may be the option of choice this time.

Good company also helps. :D

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 Post subject: Re: New Sidwinder400 in 2012
PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:09 pm 
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Howdy! June would be my preference. :)

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 Post subject: Re: New Sidwinder400 in 2012
PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:01 pm 
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Purpleazfrog wrote:
Howdy! June would be my preference. :)


It'll be warmer then, and maybe no snow along the road side going into Springerville. :D

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 Post subject: Re: New Sidwinder400 in 2012
PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:13 am 
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Okay. We, and others, need a lot of time to plan for this one. Thus the early posting.

Here's the first suggested dates. The 2nd week of June.

June 2012 - 8, 9, 10 (Fri, Sat, Sun)
or
June 2012 - 9, 10, 11 (Sat, Sun, Mon)

Two reasons for the choice of weekend.

1. It's not a holiday weekend thus making it easier for those in retail and entertainment to get time off work.

2. Schools are out. At least, they are in AZ, SC, GA. I'm taking it for granted that the same applies to other states. It's surprising how many of us Rebelers work in the educational field or support services for schools. Purpleazfrog does .. so does Becca. Well, come to think of it, so does some of the Indiana group .. and Ohio.

I mentioned Becca and GA schools because AtlAggie hinted at interest in this ride. That's enough for me to believe that he & Becca will be there .. barring an unexpected situation they can't work around.

One of my joys in the Lake Hope rallies was the meeting of North & South. I KNEW they would enjoy each others company.

East meets West? Oh, yeah!

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 Post subject: Re: New Sidwinder400 in 2012
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:22 pm 
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John, you missed out on this stretch the last time.

The smell of hot car brakes permeated the air when we stopped at the bridge overlooking the river.


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 Post subject: Re: New Sidwinder400 in 2012
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:51 pm 
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mmmmm, That would be a lot of fun on the Beemer. :halohorns:

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 Post subject: Re: New Sidwinder400 in 2012
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:34 pm 
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R.W.: I've been on that stretch through the reservation before, going down hill to the south, being passed in a cage by an SUV hauling a boat on a trailer!

It is neat road and I've never ridden it so it would be welcome. However, defensive riding may be needed. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: New Sidwinder400 in 2012
PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:52 pm 
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Duckster, I place this ride as one of my top 3 of places ridden .. along with the Blue Ridge Parkway and the Northern California/Oregon coast.

It rates on vistas, curves, and one can feel the history of the area. The Devil's Highway itself is one of the most interesting roads per mile. Definitely not a ride for the timid although there are also peaceful, beautiful stretches between the more challenging areas of twisties, horseshoe turns and elevation changes.

If you can't join us for this rally .. (you'd have to travel farther than us from SC just to get there) .. I recommend you add it to your bucket list. You won't be sorry.

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 Post subject: Re: New Sidwinder400 in 2012
PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:25 pm 
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Done When I get back to that country I will make a point of it,, I've been on the California Coast road oon my Norton and done the Angeles Crest Highway on a Ducati, but never done the Blue Ridge, even though I have ridden right past it on my old Beemer.

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 Post subject: Re: New Sidwinder400 in 2012
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:35 am 
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Duckster, Angeles Crest Highway sounded familiar to me.

So I looked it up.

SW walked in on me while the map of the area was spread across the monitor. She glared at me and it took me a while to reassure her that she didn't need to pack up for a long distance trip now. (notice the word "now") She gets a little touchy about leaving home, pre-Christmas, when she's planning our gift list.

I realized that I'm somewhat familiar with the area of Angeles Crest Highway. Way back when, in my youth .. I was sent from Hawaii to a military school in Glendora, California as a disciplinary action.

Not sure of the reason.

Might have been the time my mother tore up my drivers license in front of me .. with a connection to the cops stopping me & my best friend for drag racing.

or

our not being able to get the smell out of a rental car when it was needed
(my parents had the Hertz rental franchise)
because my best bud threw up all over the interior after we'd imbibed a little in it the night before.

This military school must be where my rallying instincts were developed. I clearly remember leading a group of guys .. under the fence .. and over to the girl scout camp nearby to mingle.

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 Post subject: Re: New Sidwinder400 in 2012
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:46 am 
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It didn't take me long to decide on what route I would like to suggest for this 2nd Sidewinder.

The same as the first Sidewinder.

Each leg of the 3-day trip was great. So much to see, such a variety of riding challenges as well as relaxing stretches, .. so different from our own stomping grounds. I'm more used to being surrounded by tall trees (which I love, by the way. I need tall trees and green grass in my everyday life. This need must come from my raising.)

There's something to be said for the "freedom" one feels when riding above and through canyons, under a Big, Big sky .. with views unhampered by such as tall trees. Miles & miles of vista set out before me. Not that we didn't ride through some beautiful forested areas. There's some of that too.

I'd previously mentioned my dislike of riding freeways. I WILL ride a freeway if I have to .. and don't have problems with doing that. It's just not my preference. The freeways I personally want to avoid are the 2 between Glendale and Apache Junction. I hate those. Of course, this is just me. Wish there was a way to get from Apache Junction to Glendale without use of the freeways .. but I'd bet that route would be time-consuming at a time we would have little time to spare.

I don't want to start in Morenci because we'd miss riding there with Purpleazfrog & Leatherneck and whoever else would come along. Thus I'm suggesting Apache Junction again for a start. Of course, Waffle House next to the hotel has got to be another incentive for me choosing the same hotel.

The only change I can think of for this Sidewinder ..

- no side trips after leaving Apache Junction. (so jsonder doesn't have to wait so long for us)
- arrive at Morenci or other designated point (MUCH earlier than last time)
- do the Mule Creek ride, into & out of New Mexico.

Otherwise all schedules and hotels could be the same. This would save us from having to research since our choices the last time worked out very well. Schedules too, except for the first day.

Okay .. nit-picking time. Come back at me.

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 Post subject: Re: New Sidwinder400 in 2012
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:42 am 
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Thought I'd better clarify what SW means by the last schedule.

1st day - Apache Junction to Clifton
2nd day- Clifton to Eager/Springerville
3rd day - Springerville back to Apache Junction, Phoenix, or in direction of home.

Of course, someone could join up at any time, leave whenever he/she choses. No one is locked into 3 days with those of us who will do the entire route.

Hotels

1 - Super 8 in Apache Junction
2 - Rode Inn - Clifton (928-865-4536)
3 - Rode Inn - Springerville (928-333-4365)

Looked into both Rode Inns. Prices have gone up. Probably still cheaper than the others but didn't check.

In Clifton, it's $71.48 for 2, before taxes. They are pretty much booked up until May 1st. Suggested early reservations. The suggested place to eat is a Barbecue Place that even stays open until 8 pm on Sundays.

In Springerville, it's $74.95, before taxes. $83.98 after. Again early reservations were recommended. In June, deluxe continental breakfast (her words) will be offered which includes biscuit & gravy, and waffles.

Didn't check Apache Junction yet.

We need to pick dates for the rally. So far, no objections to the weekend. The choice is between Fri, Sat, Sun .. or .. Sat, Sun, Mon of that weekend.

My feeling is that SW & I can do it anytime. John can do it anytime. Karen & Floyd need more specifics. The decision of WHICH part of the weekend MIGHT make a difference to anyone else who "may just be thinking of making it".

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 Post subject: Re: New Sidwinder400 in 2012
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:13 pm 
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I've blocked the time to do it either way. If finances allow, I may join you in Apache Junction at the start. That eliminates any timing worries.

I'll still bail out in Springerville and return home via Morenci and Clifton so I can do the twisties a 2nd time. :D

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 Post subject: Re: New Sidwinder400 in 2012
PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:47 am 
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You can't fool me, John. You just want to do the Devil's Highway twice!

Bet you'd do it again .. even if it wasn't the shortest way for you to return home.

I like the idea of seeing & riding with you from the beginning, in Apache Junction. You've just added another "plus" to MY ride. And, just think .. I'll have my opportunity to drag you, yelling and screaming, into a greasy spoon.

By the way, I love the picture of Brenda on her Rebel. Would she object to the picture being posted? If she does .. I'd understand. If she's okay with it .. it's too good a picture to waste. Her decision, of course.

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 Post subject: Re: New Sidwinder400 in 2012
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I don't think that she'd have a problem.

How about a picture of the 1st boy who is now 39?

He is on his mama's bike.



He rode the piglet this past summer and I took him on some easy trails.

And the requested pic:


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 Post subject: Re: New Sidwinder400 in 2012
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S_W wrote:
I mentioned Becca and GA schools because AtlAggie hinted at interest in this ride. That's enough for me to believe that he & Becca will be there .. barring an unexpected situation they can't work around.

One of my joys in the Lake Hope rallies was the meeting of North & South. I KNEW they would enjoy each others company.

East meets West? Oh, yeah!


SW, the roads and the company really make this look inviting! But a quick check of Google Maps says that it is 31 hours driving time from my house to Apache Junction! Eight hours a day is about my limit, so we'd be looking at about 4 days travel to get to the start and 4 more days to get home. :shock:

Might be cheaper for Becca and I to fly to Arizona and rent a bike for 3-4 days!

I'll see what I can find.
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 Post subject: Re: New Sidwinder400 in 2012
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Greg, did a quick search on rental possibilities. Not surprising that rentals are available easily for this part of the country. Just picked a couple to post.

The first one does organized tours and it looks like we were spot on in picking the weekend for our Route 666 (the Devil's Highway) ride. Their tour is on the weekend before. This doesn't mean that the hotels' parking lots won't be filled with bikes when we are in the area. This is the reason SW wants to settle on the specific days for our ride. To lock in hotel rooms. Although this is an area of wide-open spaces on the road, the hotel parking lots are crowded.

http://www.azride.com/MotorcycleRental.html

http://www.azfuntimerentals.com/

Too bad we don't still have our large enclosed motorcycle trailer anymore. The 3rd bike in there belonged to SW's youngest daughter who rode her '99 black Rebel with us at times. Coulda hauled your bike with ours.

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 Post subject: Re: New Sidwinder400 in 2012
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:29 pm 
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If it would take you 31 hours to get there, then it will take us at least 34. Maybe.

Our ride, trailering both bikes, will go something like this ...

- 1st stop - Tunica, MS - about 10 hrs away.

- 2nd - the other side of Oklahoma City or east side of the Texas panhandle.

- 3rd - somewhere near the New Mexico/Arizona border.

In the old days, we could make it to San Diego in 36 hours. Now, since SW seems to need a pit stop whenever we're near a casino .. and there are so many between MS and Phoenix AZ .. it takes us longer to get cross country.

It wouldn't be so bad because casinos with restaurants, restrooms, and sometimes, gas pumps, make for nice stops on long journeys. It's my having to pull her out, kicking and screaming, that's bad. It upsets the other patrons.

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 Post subject: Re: New Sidwinder400 in 2012
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Thanks, John. That 1st picture is absolutely precious.

I regret that I don't have pictures of my children on a motorcycle because I took up bike riding when I was already a grandmother. I do have some of grandkids though. Somewhere I have a picture of one, about your son's age in your posted picture .. fast asleep, head against RW's back .. propped between his mom & RW. The pic was taken at the end of a quick ride down a quiet local road. The road was quiet. The Harley isn't. We were all flabbergasted that he could fall asleep with the noise. But the picture is precious too. Priceless.

And, I knew it. Brenda's picture is such a good one. I'm glad I asked.

RW exaggerated about me & casinos. We will only make 4 casino stops on the 1800-mile cross country trip.

- Tunica MS - where we'd have free rooms, free food ("free" being a relative word in this setting) and playing comps. Tunica has 9 casinos .. a perfect stop after 10 hrs of driving .. and the only casino area where we will spend the night.

- FireLake Grand Casino in OK .. Route 66 and Dancing Eagle in NM .. all roadside .. should be stops of less than an hour, unless we decide to make them meal stops as well.

Favorite stops .. like "the corner at Winslow, AZ" or a particular mall in Texas, or a favorite restaurant stop, etc probably add to slowing us down more than the casinos. (This is my story and I'm sticking to it!)

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 Post subject: Re: New Sidwinder400 in 2012
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:33 pm 
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Not sure where SW is getting 1800 miles.

It's closer to 2100 miles with 32.5 hrs of traveling time.

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